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is a big bargaining chip. looks like defense will take a bigger cut because of that. >> every single one of the panels has recommended bigger cut spending. secretary gates has even said he was expecting a bigger number than 400 billion or that some of the estimates out there were bigger than 400 billion. marcus, what are some of the things the pentagon doing to prepare for a leaner future. gates was the one out there arguing to keep spending levels high. >> well up to now, the pentagon mainly way of saving money is through efficiencies. last budget go around for over five year period they said we will save $178 billion. however they reinvested 100 billion. now they believe more work can be done in terms of efficiencies, however more has to be done in terms of whether it's weapons, whether it's instrain. >> kate let me end with you, do we know, now that we have some of the these proposals on the floor, do we know where the 2012 defense bill is going to ultimately end up? >> i think all of the bills that have been passed so far, i think you will see defense get cut much more than has alre
are the three big buckets. we will have the make changes in each of those. >> coming up next -- the threat that keeps the chairman awake at night. >>> welcome back to this week in defense news. late last week i sat down with i asked is him when he looked to 2025, what are the thefts that keep him awake at night. >> the biggest threat that is out there, i think it is cyber. i think that we're going to have to focus a lot more on it. we're going to have to put more resources against it. we're going to have to train people better. line leaders as well as skilled individuals. >> the whole organization. >> because cyber, actually, can attack or infrastructure, our financial systems. etc. it is a space with no boundaries and rules. there are people who are very good at it. countries who are very good at it, that more than anything else, that's the long-term left that really keeps me awake. >> let me take you to china. we're about to visit there. as we air, you're scheduled to be in china on a visit. mm power. our alleys in asia are getting nervous. we're going to be spending more time there, and
through the force. this review is supposed to be shaped by the qdr but the big criticism is it didn't make tough choices. how will it work to help make the tough choices for the future? >> i think we have made tough choices. as we built the budget, you mentioned the $330 billion number, we ended production of the f 22 and the c-17. we have closed the joint forces command. we canceled the presidential helicopter. we have made tough choices and those tough choices came out of the strategy that was the strategy with the document for the strategy was the defense review. >> you think it's a valid shaping document, just the repry orization within the document? >> yes. tough go back looks at the priorities. you don't want to do an across the board shave. we want to cut from the lower priorities and protect the higher priorities. i identified cyber security, long range strike and unman air rielle capabilities as things you want to protect. >> what are some of the capabilities -- secretary gates had his own list, joint strike fighter and aerial tankers and war ships as being important things. we ar
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